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March 21st, 2009
Greetings all,
First of all I want to apologize for not finishing responding to everyone's email messages, but I hope to get to it today. I want to reiterate my support for the appreciation for all that have contacted me regarding the events of this week, both positive and otherwise.
I also want to express my support to the administration on account of the initial decision and the current position related to the principals. The events of last Tuesday were not unexpected, except for the scope.
In these matters it is always difficult to discern where the line for employment law is and where it is not. The respective parties are able to discuss anything they want, but we are bound in what we can and can not say. I know that this is frustrating to many community members, but I think if we put it in terms of what we would want our own employers to be able to divulge then it becomes a little easier to understand, if not any more palatable. My practice has often been to remain as far from that line as possible in efforts to protect all parties involved.
That said I will try and relay some of my concerns from the perspective of a community member (which is what I am when I am not serving with 2 other Board members). I find it concerning that in all the outrage and action that we taken on Tuesday nobody stopped to look at the status of the respective schools and instead chose to focus on the "great people" involved. I have never doubted the scope or the influence that our building administrators have and their ability to generate love and appreciation from those they serve. Unfortunately I have seen declining scores over the last couple of years and that concerns me.
Recently when administrative personnel were explaining the current financial position of the school District, the meeting was allowed to dissolve into accusations and attacks about the administrative personnel and others while the building leadership stood by and let it happen. That concerns me.
In the same meeting as the topic transformed from budgets to building focus some teachers indicated that they will not work to make the incoming International Baccalaureate (IB) a success and will in fact work against it. This is a program that has raised one of our lowest performing elementary schools to the top of the heap. This is a program that allows its graduates to go into colleges in Colorado and throughout the world as sophomores. This is a program that the District is investing 10's of thousands of dollars and to hear that the building personnel are not only not on board but are working against it is concerns me.
If the trade off must be between accountability and popularity, I will choose accountability.
Many have asked about the meeting that is taking place regarding many of the concerned citizens in the area. I want to lend my support to such activities. I hope that many great items for growth come out of it. I am not afraid of citizens getting together to discuss their frustrations and concerns. I must admit that I do find it interesting, but not surprising, that the person who has told me on 3 different occasions over my 18 months on the Board that "people are talking recall of the Board" is the one positioning himself has solely a concerned citizen "with no ax to grind". While I could easily make the case that these are the tactics of a bully, I will instead focus on the fact that I believe he is truly concerned with the District and what he perceives to be the problem. As it relates to recall, I state for the record that I will not be bullied by those accusations. In the end that is how the system is set up and I am grateful for it. Because if I am really that out of touch with the constituents that I serve then there needs to be accountability and I do not fear it. Either my ideas are validated, or I get my time with my family back. Very Covey if I am being asked.
That said I do hope that if it comes to these actions that we can wait until the general election in November to save the money that it would take to accomplish such action, but I also understand if those that are concerned can not wait that long.
Finally, I want to address the statement that has been thrown about by the executive director of the American Association of School Administrators, Mr. Daniel Domenech. Recognize that the real surprise to his statement would have been if he had suggested that cutting School Administrators was a good choice. Recently the State of Colorado indicated that because of the current financial circumstance the state finds itself in, they intend to TAKE BACK $37/ student from operating revenues. In D-49 that equates to $600,000 from the current year's budget (a budget year that is 75% complete). Other District have chosen to take different actions as they plan next year's budgets. Harrison is laying off 80 people (40 of them teachers). Peyton is discussing closing a middle school. Douglas County has told all 1st, 2nd, and 3rd year teachers that they will not be renewed. At this point we have not increased class size, we have not reduced supplies, nor have we done anything that the students should see directly. These actions obviously result in certain losses of efficiency, but it is difficult to keep an administrator when some salaries keep 2-3 teachers in the classroom. Is this penny wise and pound foolish? Maybe, but right now I am concerned about the pennies.
On another note in efforts to make the District more "transparent" in the near future the hires and transfers that the the Board approves will be available in the posted meeting minutes (thanks to Jackie Vialpando for indicating that this was a possibility). Until recently I thought that this would be one of those things that I can not legally do, especially when I think of the paper that I need to sign for my bank to make sure that I work where I do and make what I make. Fortunately we had someone point out that since it is public funds, that there is more leniency. I wish that I could say that I was smart enough to come up with this, but it was a community member who asked. Similar to the decision to place the District check register online (thanks primarily to Tammy Harold for requesting this). These are great opportunities when the members of our community talk with us rather than about us.
Unfortunately this is the second post that I have crafted, but my son "fixed" my first one so I hope that this one is as useful as it seemed that first one would have been. If there are questions that I can answer I would love to do so.
Please feel free to contact me and I will do what I can.
Thanks
Kent








Hello Kent,
As always I do appreciate your posts and sharing. I read through this post numerous times and I do have some questions.
You stated that you have watched the test scores decline over the years and that nobody is looking at the status of the respective schools. Now my question - how can the test scores decline in a school that hasn't even been open for a year? And also at the time of your post there were not any test results from CSAP for VRHS and I think the results are still not out for this year. Could you please explain this to me? I would also like to point out that Vista opened with the same budget as Falcon High. Lets take a step back and see that Falcon was an existing school which means they already had a lot of the necessary inventory. Vista had nothing. I do think that this is a major set back for Vista. If you look at the big picture, Vista had to make due with a lot less. I would also like you to take a look at the totally different demographics of our high schools.
Now to your next statement:
"Recently when administrative personnel were explaining the current financial position of the school District, the meeting was allowed to dissolve into accusations and attacks about the administrative personnel and others while the building leadership stood by and let it happen. That concerns me.
In the same meeting as the topic transformed from budgets to building focus some teachers indicated that they will not work to make the incoming International Baccalaureate (IB) a success and will in fact work against it. This is a program that has raised one of our lowest performing elementary schools to the top of the heap. This is a program that allows its graduates to go into colleges in Colorado and throughout the world as sophomores. This is a program that the District is investing 10's of thousands of dollars and to hear that the building personnel are not only not on board but are working against it is concerns me."
I guess this could be seen in two ways - and I am not trying to accuse of anything I am just trying to keep an open mind. Building administrators might not have stepped in because they wanted everyone to see the frustration of teachers. Now your statement is also quite broad and I would like to see the actual accusations and if they were validated. Sometimes one person sees it as an accusations when another person sees it as constructive criticism. If nobody in the district is allowed to speak their mind how can we see where change needs to happen. I do want to stress the fact that criticism needs to be done in a respectful manner but I do understand when emotions run high. About the IB program - you stated that "some" teachers are against it and will work against it. First of all "some" to me doesn't mean all but a minority.We will always have folks which don't believe in certain programs. That said, why do these teachers not want to support the program - again is there a certain frustration present, do they feel overwhelmed? Now if we really listen, do you think there might be some constructive criticism in this even if the teachers involved might have been flustered and expressed it in the wrong way? I obviously wasn't present at the meeting but I do think if you put this out, you need to have concrete examples of accusations and so forth. Were you present at the meeting or were you told about it by a third party? If it was by a third party - don't you think that one gets personally involved when accused and gets also emotional and isn't really objective anymore (this is a normal human reaction)?
About letting go of administrators instead of teachers and I quote from your post "These actions obviously result in certain losses of efficiency, but it is difficult to keep an administrator when some salaries keep 2-3 teachers in the classroom. Is this penny wise and pound foolish? Maybe, but right now I am concerned about the pennies." - hm, this does make me think. Why are only two HS principals being let go and not FHS also if it is such a financial concern? And who is going to run the school if not a principal? Why are we still having principals in any of our other schools then? Why do we have any administration? I actually do find it foolish to run a school without a principal. I guess I am not really understanding this because lately the board does emphasize on how taxing it is on the district administration to run a district without a superintendent. Do you really think it is any less taxing on school administration to run a school without a principal? Also doing this to a brand new school is a double whammy - now is this really in the best interest of our children. I do not think this makes any sense at all. But that is my personal opinion.
And last I would like to say it again, our children are not robots that will perform because we ask them to perform. What I do know is that my kids will work twice as hard for a teacher they like. I know our son, who is in elementary school, loves his principal and is extremely proud of her praise. I know our daughter who is in middle school worked twice as hard this year and improved tremendously because she loves her teachers. I can also tell you that the kids at SCHS try twice as hard because of Mr. Collins. Again, I think demographics are a big factor and instead of pointing fingers and finding a scape (sp?) goat - has the district ever asked where SCHS could use help to improve? SCHS was an overcrowded school for a long time - this is the first year the school is back to a kind of normal size for its building size. This comes with it's own issues. Lets look at all the facts, keep our eyes wide open.
This comment is not meant accusatory against anybody. I just wanted to share my thoughts with you because I do think if we keep communication open it will improve our district. One might see something another person doesn't.
Thanks for caring about our schools.
Sincerely, Alex Eichelberger
Hello Kent,
As always I do appreciate your posts and sharing. I read through this post numerous times and I do have some questions.
You stated that you have watched the test scores decline over the years and that nobody is looking at the status of the respective schools. Now my question - how can the test scores decline in a school that hasn't even been open for a year? And also at the time of your post there were not any test results from CSAP for VRHS and I think the results are still not out for this year. Could you please explain this to me? I would also like to point out that Vista opened with the same budget as Falcon High. Lets take a step back and see that Falcon was an existing school which means they already had a lot of the necessary inventory. Vista had nothing. I do think that this is a major set back for Vista. If you look at the big picture, Vista had to make due with a lot less. I would also like you to take a look at the totally different demographics of our high schools.
Now to your next statement:
"Recently when administrative personnel were explaining the current financial position of the school District, the meeting was allowed to dissolve into accusations and attacks about the administrative personnel and others while the building leadership stood by and let it happen. That concerns me.
In the same meeting as the topic transformed from budgets to building focus some teachers indicated that they will not work to make the incoming International Baccalaureate (IB) a success and will in fact work against it. This is a program that has raised one of our lowest performing elementary schools to the top of the heap. This is a program that allows its graduates to go into colleges in Colorado and throughout the world as sophomores. This is a program that the District is investing 10's of thousands of dollars and to hear that the building personnel are not only not on board but are working against it is concerns me."
I guess this could be seen in two ways - and I am not trying to accuse of anything I am just trying to keep an open mind. Building administrators might not have stepped in because they wanted everyone to see the frustration of teachers. Now your statement is also quite broad and I would like to see the actual accusations and if they were validated. Sometimes one person sees it as an accusations when another person sees it as constructive criticism. If nobody in the district is allowed to speak their mind how can we see where change needs to happen. I do want to stress the fact that criticism needs to be done in a respectful manner but I do understand when emotions run high. About the IB program - you stated that "some" teachers are against it and will work against it. First of all "some" to me doesn't mean all but a minority.We will always have folks which don't believe in certain programs. That said, why do these teachers not want to support the program - again is there a certain frustration present, do they feel overwhelmed? Now if we really listen, do you think there might be some constructive criticism in this even if the teachers involved might have been flustered and expressed it in the wrong way? I obviously wasn't present at the meeting but I do think if you put this out, you need to have concrete examples of accusations and so forth. Were you present at the meeting or were you told about it by a third party? If it was by a third party - don't you think that one gets personally involved when accused and gets also emotional and isn't really objective anymore (this is a normal human reaction)?
About letting go of administrators instead of teachers and I quote from your post "These actions obviously result in certain losses of efficiency, but it is difficult to keep an administrator when some salaries keep 2-3 teachers in the classroom. Is this penny wise and pound foolish? Maybe, but right now I am concerned about the pennies." - hm, this does make me think. Why are only two HS principals being let go and not FHS also if it is such a financial concern? And who is going to run the school if not a principal? Why are we still having principals in any of our other schools then? Why do we have any administration? I actually do find it foolish to run a school without a principal. I guess I am not really understanding this because lately the board does emphasize on how taxing it is on the district administration to run a district without a superintendent. Do you really think it is any less taxing on school administration to run a school without a principal? Also doing this to a brand new school is a double whammy - now is this really in the best interest of our children. I do not think this makes any sense at all. But that is my personal opinion.
And last I would like to say it again, our children are not robots that will perform because we ask them to perform. What I do know is that my kids will work twice as hard for a teacher they like. I know our son, who is in elementary school, loves his principal and is extremely proud of her praise. I know our daughter who is in middle school worked twice as hard this year and improved tremendously because she loves her teachers. I can also tell you that the kids at SCHS try twice as hard because of Mr. Collins. Again, I think demographics are a big factor and instead of pointing fingers and finding a scape (sp?) goat - has the district ever asked where SCHS could use help to improve? SCHS was an overcrowded school for a long time - this is the first year the school is back to a kind of normal size for its building size. This comes with it's own issues. Lets look at all the facts, keep our eyes wide open.
This comment is not meant accusatory against anybody. I just wanted to share my thoughts with you because I do think if we keep communication open it will improve our district. One might see something another person doesn't.
Thanks for caring about our schools.
Sincerely, Alex Eichelberger